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Post by lyle on Aug 14, 2008 15:34:58 GMT -5
ECW ECW ECW ECW!!!!!
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Post by lyle on Aug 14, 2008 15:37:17 GMT -5
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Post by lyle on Aug 14, 2008 15:38:51 GMT -5
This is this thread lmao!!!!
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Post by drumz on Aug 14, 2008 17:32:04 GMT -5
You know what's really funny though??? Tim called Evan the other night, and asked him if he could have HIS festival at the LEDGES, if he promised to change the name.
Evan told him no, then they both agreed not to talk about each other anymore....or else....Evan would have his lawyer slap him with a lawsuit for SLANDER.But here we are....Tim's still flapping his gums.
If you would just STFU Tim, this bullcrap WOULD go away as you claim you want it to. In fact you say you want it to end, yet you leave this SLANDEROUS post up for all to see. You even go so far as to pretend to be some kid, over at Jambands forums.
Your obsessed man. I guess legal action is all that's left...I mean if you really wanted to end it, you would just delete this whole thread and make it go away NOW...however I feel confident you'll have to reply and keep it going...right?
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Post by lyle on Aug 15, 2008 8:56:44 GMT -5
Don't cancel my favorite soap opera Drumz lmao.. Everyone knows the story, but we should rehash it another 100 times or so...
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Post by lizardflag on Aug 15, 2008 10:35:59 GMT -5
Obviously my message did nothing... I'm out. Continue the negativity as will. Peace, ya'll.
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Post by sdog5 on Aug 15, 2008 11:33:28 GMT -5
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Post by lyle on Aug 15, 2008 13:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by lizardflag on Aug 15, 2008 17:59:43 GMT -5
That's what I'm talking about!! ;D
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 17, 2008 5:08:05 GMT -5
Don't cancel my favorite soap opera Drumz lmao.. Everyone knows the story, but we should rehash it another 100 times or so... Lyle, is this the stuff you don't want canceled? Why? NLQP STAFF MUST BE SHADY AS THE OWNERIts total bullshit I was out there for about 2 hours Saturday untill I got busted also. When I first arrived I seen them people with x get busted, they all sitting in front of everyone coming into the fest. I was also caught by staff with a buddy he got poped wit a 8 ball powder, and I got busted with 43 hits. Thank god they didn't turn us in, them people who got busted with all the pills must of been givin staff or the cops shit. Cause all the staff did was do the powder, and ate my cid. I fully do not support nelsons ledges anymore, staff is total pricks to people. Because you know what.. caught up ur shit or go to prison. They dont care they will be doing ur shit later, or selling it back to people out there.www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8577761# 8577761 So, my girlfriend and I bought some shrooms from some of the staff at nelsons this year... they sold us drugs and when we tryed to sell them the same staff members who sold them to us confinscated them and our money and forced us to pick up trash or they would make everyone we came with leave.Evan is a crook, and needs to be in prison... I have talked to the DEA and they are gathering evidence as you read this.. . nelsons is going down this year, and I would hate to be there when it does.www.myspace.com/nlqpATTENTION PEOPLE ARE TALKING NLQP-GRATEFUL FEST BE AWAREThat place gets hotter and hotter every year. A ton of regulars told me the sheriff has regular staff throughout there now, sad. Within a few years there will be no safe festival grounds, what a world. www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8577761# 8577761 Dear Fans, This date was pulled because the promoter (Evan) did not fulfill his contractual obligations, and upon further discussion to resolve, became belligerent and uncooperative. This is not the type of attitude & environment The Avett Brothers' organization prefers to engage in. Subsequently & sadly, the promoter (Evan) has become even more unkind and slanderous towards The Avett Brothers, so please consider the source when reading the untruths the event is spreading out there. Rest assured The Avett Brothers will continue to perform in northeast Ohio a couple of times a year, just not at this particular venue. www.theavettbrothers.com/community.php?&sub=board &com=board&brd=topic_189379__0 After reading this thread, I went to the web site mentioned. I sent an e mail to the site telling them what I thought about the comments toward TAB. Evan sent me an immediate, and not nice, email back. They are better off staying away from this venue.Same here. "Evan" wrote me back, and called me every name in the book, and had quite a few curse words directed towards me and Avett fans! We are still going at it in e-mails! This guy is a piece of work, and seems unstable to me.I had a friend buy K off a staff member there. Surprising to see this here... but I will comment: At this point, I'm not a fan at all. I had some of the best experiences of my life in that place several years ago. But now... the fear is so thick you can cut it with a knife. Everyone is sketchy. Everyone is sketched out.There's no comradery with the staff anymore. They used to chat with us at our camp fires... friendly talks, tripping balls in the middle of the night. They didn't give a fuck. They were just people, relating to other people. Now, staff is just policing the crowd... like the community outgrew the venue and they're bitter or something. It's sad. There's no sense of community in that place at this point. The magic is no longer there. But I have no regret. The love has moved on to greener pastures.
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 17, 2008 5:11:47 GMT -5
Wow and yikes. :sad: I have had such great times there. But I am not surprised to read this. Myself and a group of people were just looking at the water one beautiful Sunday morning and the silence was disturbed when we were harassed by about eight people on golf carts and atv's who proceeded to circle us and cus us out, and when we asked then why they were doing this, they told us that the waiver that we signed meant that they could do whatever they wanted to us. (note: My friend checked the waiver later, and there was NOTHING in the waiver that said we were subject to such violating behavior by the staff)
They proceeded to follow us around wherever we went, following close behind, talking rudely to us. I did not feel safe at all. Very scary... one guy was the ringleader, an angry bastard, who had so much hate roiling inside of him. And I couldn't see a reason for it. We weren't doing anything wrong; we were just hanging out peacefully. It totally put a sour note on my weekend and made me regret spending money to camp there just to be harassed and given a heart-pounded experience. 4 years ago, the staff helped me feel safe at events at the Ledges. Now they were putting fear in me. That's fucked up! How sad to see that they've regressed to the point where musicians don't want anything more to do with them.
Oh well...I will be interested to see how this turns out, and move on to greener pastures. www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=37&Number=8773371&page=4&fpart=1
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Post by lyle on Aug 17, 2008 7:58:35 GMT -5
Well I had a show up there not to long ago. One of the best times I've had all Summer at a fest, this year has sucked and trust me when I say there are a lot of bigger a$$e$ that are promoters in Ohio that are supposed to be family. When I went through all the bs this year Evan was a kind brother to me and got the truth and the facts before discarding me like some promoters have this year. He treated me kind and fair, his staff was excellent.. Maybe because I am a musician I get different treatment but I can say everytime I've been there I have had a great time and very well taken care of performing that weekend or not. I know hundreds of people that go there and am treated with respect. I can honestly say that for the last 20 years that I have been going to Dead shows and festivals, I don't think I can recall 1 show that I didn't see illegal activity. I don't care what people do to themselves and what they want to take to get thier fix, that's thier business but don't come into a family/phamily place and sling your bs especially in the open, be descrete at least.. When some idiot is out there and being totallty obvious that they are dealing illegl substances well that aint cool. I know a lot of the staff up there at nlqp and they are friends of mine, I will admit I have seen shady staff at nlqp in the past and you know what, they are booted when they are found out period. There are other venues in Ohio where the staff and security is a lot more shady than nlqp, I know from personal experience and these people were supposedly family.. That is on them, Karma will get them, I hold no grudges against anyone or any venue I don't have the time to spew crap about them or the willpower for that matter.. I try to spread peace and love and joy wherever I go. I'm not going to get online and say this person did this that venue did that etc etc... I get lies told about me by others who don't even take the time to find out the facts so KUDO's to Evan for being kind and saying hey I heard this what really happened unlike others.. I will perform at nlqp again if possible, in fact I am awaiting confirmation about one coming up at nlqp and if it works out I will perform there again soon.. Not to many people give me a chance, solo artist don't get many breaks.. Evan at least believes in me as a musician and lets me perform at his venue, it took a couple years but hey it is a business and a very hard business at that. Bunch of cut throats and backstabbers... Not all I realize who is who and who cares about others now, some people I thought were my friends screw me over while others have become very close and I call them family.. Why don't you write about why you didn't do the 3G's in WI next time Tim, I know the story we've hung out and partied.. Stop hating bro, this isn't you.. OK 3G's flopped it's not Evan's fault... I hope you have a better show next time...
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Post by drumz on Aug 17, 2008 12:07:44 GMT -5
Nice to see you've joined the board of Shroomery.org Tim. I really believe that you will create a strong following over there. I am saddened to know that these poor fans of "tripping balls" as they put it, won't be hanging around campfires at the Quarry any longer.
The folks here are completely right, this thread is stupid, and I am stupid for entertaining you by commenting on what you say. To the delight of everyone here....I am now done with this thread. I will also disappoint you by not following you over to the Shroomery to entertain you, by the looks of things, you've found your audience there. I'm also finished chasing you around on the "other" boards you've joined.
Try not to let this consume you Tim, it will make you sick.
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Post by hedges on Aug 17, 2008 17:18:02 GMT -5
Tim you really are a sorry pathetic soul.
Since you are going to most the same BS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN i will do the same.
What we have here is Tim who ran the Grateful Garcia Gathering. He took a bath, hardly anyone showed up. He was cancelling bands left and right. Tim what is the count of bands you posted on your internet, say on June 1st, and the ones that actually showed up? What is the percentage exactly?? I know it's pretty pathetic.
So the very next day after his festical was the joke of the season, Tim decided he was going to take this campaign against nelson ledges. He scoured the internet to find 4 people who had a bad time there over it's history and created the BS email from above. They may be true, i mean not everyone that has gone to Walt Disney World had glowing reports afterwards. So Tim came up with these four or five instances of people who had a bad time there, despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of visitors to NLQP have had a great time, and wrote his little email of slander and BS.
Then he went to mutiliple websites and started posting his crap so that Nelson Ledges might fail miserably like his 3Gs. He was immediately banned from two of those sites for posting his BS.
So Tim did the owners of Legand Valley have to bail you out because you couldn't pay all the bands?
Tim how was Donna Jean and Tricksters? I bet their Headline Set kicked ass. Tim how was the New Riders? I head they have lovely things to say about you. Tim how was Splintered Sunlight? Did they kick ass. I remember you told Rob Eaton on Ratdog.org that you didn't need them that you had Splintered Sunlight. How was their Set? How was the Waterband? Didn't i tell you their Bassist kicked ass.
Folks all those bands were either cancelled or quit on Tim because of his Scam Festival.
How was Melvin Seals set with JGB? I heard you pulled the plug on him in the middle of the set.
I heard the vendors have wonderful things to say about you and how they took a bath.
You mentioned drugs!! Can you state for a fact, that you held a festival for deadheads, based on Garcia's memory, and that no one in the audience was smoking weed, or doing psychedelics?? if you say then you are a liar, or you certainly don't know your target market.
Go Away, you are nothing but a negative force and this campaign of yours will fail as miserably as your festival.
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Post by hedges on Aug 17, 2008 17:26:10 GMT -5
oh and the truth with the water incident, that you obviously felt there was no need to inform people here, is they were SWIMMING during non-swimming hours. The Ledges has an important rule, posted at the gate of entry, and at the beach. If you swim during hours that a life guard is NOT on duty you will immediately be thrown out of the park. Thank your local lawyer for that.
How convenient of you NOT to inform the people that. I guess it would have defeated your slanderous post. And as someon who runs a festival you should understand the ramifications of what would happen if they allowed off hour swimming and god forbid something happened. But that wouldn't work in regards to your Bull shit now would it?
Another proof that Tim Sundog is a liar and a scammer.
Grateful-fest will rock, it will sell, and we all will have a blast, except for Timmy who will utilize that time to keep writing lies and BS on the internet.
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