HappyCamper
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 11, 2008 10:01:46 GMT -5
Hey guys..I'm new here. I had to sign up because I heard 'ol Tim was bashing Evan over here now. Oh wait I may be getting ahead of myself. hey just curious bc i like to see how people find the place... but how did you hear about this bashing going on and the link to it exactly? Skells, if you want to delete/ban me from this site, its cool. The word is already out about GratefulBust. There nothing wrong with informing folks about a situation first hand. Thanks for all you do!
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 10:07:24 GMT -5
<<Tim-Only truths my friend, and you were our photographer for the GGG. We heard from <<some people Evan paid half of your camera to not be our photographer. Is that a lie too? <<Come on man, fest up.
another lie by Tim and the Clones.
Yes i was offered by Tim SunDog to be the photographer and i accepted. I was not paid, just given a VIP access. i actually bought a ticket, Tim didn't offer me even that. I ate that ticket and was never compensated by anyone.
then the truth about how shaddy Tim was came out in the beginning of the summer and i had serious doubts.
Then he cancelled two big acts that i wanted to see after he advertized them for months. that was when i saw first hand how shaddy tim was. I decided, at that point, 30 days before the event that i wanted nothing to do with the 3Gs. I did not want my name or my photos to be associated with his lame festival.
That is a fact, so stop spewing lies. Want to know another fact, Evan had no clue, and still doesn't, that i was ever offered to shoot the 3Gs. My camera was paid for two years ago, with cash from my pocket. Every single dime i've spent on my camera and lens was with money i made from my day job. So you claiming Evan paid me not to show is a complete lie. I didn't show because i wanted NOTHING to do with that train wreck.
nice try liar!!
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HappyCamper
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 11, 2008 10:10:48 GMT -5
I heard from Drumz, yes we are friends and both of us do like the park. Tim and his clones have been spamming boards against the Ledges ever since his festival flopped, and they've been going from one to the other. It's pretty easy to track where they have been going. I heard they were spamming here so i googled "Ohio Grown Network" and joined. Being an ohio boy my whole life, it looks like a cool little place. they've also spammed ratdog.org, and jambands.com. tim was banned from ratdog.org due to his lies and attacks, i've heard he was banned from jambands but not sure. it really is pathetic. I left Ratdog because it turned into a NLQP spam board with all of Evans groupie's invading the place. I have a alot of PM's from that board, and alot of good folks were attack and threaten by Evan personally. Evan is a loose cannon. Go back and read between the lines. Sad situation. Hegdes SPAMS his photos there. He thinks people see it as pictures, but its Hegdes and Evan's way of promoting the NLQP festivals. Again, an undermining of SPAM.
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HappyCamper
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 11, 2008 10:13:13 GMT -5
<<Tim-Only truths my friend, and you were our photographer for the GGG. We heard from <<some people Evan paid half of your camera to not be our photographer. Is that a lie too? <<Come on man, fest up. another lie by Tim and the Clones. Yes i was offered by Tim SunDog to be the photographer and i accepted. I was not paid, just given a VIP access. i actually bought a ticket, Tim didn't offer me even that. I ate that ticket and was never compensated by anyone. then the truth about how shaddy Tim was came out in the beginning of the summer and i had serious doubts. Then he cancelled two big acts that i wanted to see after he advertized them for months. that was when i saw first hand how shaddy tim was. I decided, at that point, 30 days before the event that i wanted nothing to do with the 3Gs. I did not want my name or my photos to be associated with his lame festival. That is a fact, so stop spewing lies. Want to know another fact, Evan had no clue, and still doesn't, that i was ever offered to shoot the 3Gs. My camera was paid for two years ago, with cash from my pocket. Every single dime i've spent on my camera and lens was with money i made from my day job. So you claiming Evan paid me not to show is a complete lie. I didn't show because i wanted NOTHING to do with that train wreck. nice try liar!! See the hate above? Evan smiles. He says, Good job Hegdes.Hedges, I thought you were a really kind person, I really did. But Evan has really but the clamp on you. I'm truly sorry... Now go get Evan...
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 10:19:33 GMT -5
another lie by tim the failed festival promoter.
He was banned from Ratdog. that is a fact.
For the record i've only met briefly with Evan, for about 5 minutes at Lazy Daisy. You make it out like we've been long time buddies. God you are a pathetic liar.
Yes i do post my pics all the time with NLQP festivals on Ratdog. How can i spam them since i have never made a single dollar off any of my photos. Not $1 ever!! So how can they be Spam? Another lie by Timmy, the guy who posted daily with advertisements about his lame festival. that is spam Tim as you tried to gain a profit from your posts..
I post my pics there all the time, because people like them and i go there all the time (and i pay every time). I am not an official photographer for NLQP, i have never been given a photo pass for the park (and i have asked for one twice). If Evan and i were so damn tight like you claim then why wouldn't he give me a photo pass?? Answer that!! Another one of your made up lies.
Can you make a post on the internet with at least a hint of truth to it?? I doubt it.
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 10:25:13 GMT -5
i speak the truth, i'm sorry i'm being a jerk to you but you are asking for it. you are posting lies all over the internet against NLQP, and it's a place i love. so yes i am taking it personal. It has nothing to do with Evan, it has to do with me. Evan has not instructed me to do anything .... not one damn thing. You only speak with i liars tongue.
Your attacks started the monday after you failed. If you wouldn't have gone on this internet attack then i wouldn't be posting here and elsewhear. I tried to stay out of it Tim, when everyone at Ratdog was blasting you for spamming i stayed neutral, despite my love for the park. But your actions over the last week have brought me out.
And again, the ONLY discussions Evan and i EVER had about your festival, before last monday, was him calling you a name. that's it. He has not asked me to do anything.
Now you just spew lie after lie after lie, and i won't stand still.
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Post by toniwalker on Aug 11, 2008 11:08:38 GMT -5
well I just have to say that I when to the 3 g's and although the turn out wasn't what I expected It did pretty good. I had a fun time. I heard alot of negative things about Evan and NLQP. Walt from In the Dark Said, Evan was yelling, and cussing at him, got two of there gigs canceled, and banned the band from playing at NLQP because they where playing the 3 g's. Judging from what I read on the 2 deleted threads on Jambase with Evan calling people assholes, pricks, bitches, dumb fucks, fuck heads, threating people, and so on and so on. Not a very nice thing to say. I personally think he's a jackass. Just thought I'd get my 2 cents in.
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HappyCamper
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 11, 2008 15:51:03 GMT -5
Right on Toni, thanks!
Hedges, these lies your talking about are NOT lies. There must be a good reason these folks spoke out loud. Can't you tell the differents? Evan has ahold on you BECAUSE you love that place. Tell me something truthfully, do you NOT see that Evan has a mean streek, and he will do or say ANYTHING to prevent this stuff from surfacing on the internet?. He becomes off ranting, then comes off as a loving hippie after the verbal lashings. Come on man...Can you see how he comes off as a ego maniac? All these people CAN'T BE WRONG my friend. The posts below have nothing to do with me, and you know thats the truth. Just saying bro. I didn't call OR speak to ANY Dea, cops, shieff, NOBODY. Its not my style, and if you really knew me, you'd know that. 'nuff said, I'm done.
Be warned about Grateful Fest
Jul 17, 2008 5:46 PM So, my girlfriend and I bought some shrooms from some of the staff at nelsons this year... they sold us drugs and when we tryed to sell them the same staff members who sold them to us confinscated them and are money and forced us to pick up trash or they would make everyone we came with leave. Evan is a crook, and needs to be in prison... I have talked to the DEA and they are gathering evidence as you read this... nelsons is going down this year, and I would hate to be there when it does.
Jul 18, 2008 3:35 PM So I talked to the DEA again today... You ever hear of rainbow Farms? Nelsons is HIT!!!!!
Funny. I just came back from one of the best weekends of my life over there and Evan seemed like a tight ass dude. Did not see one person get hassled the whole weekend save one douche for shooting fire works in a wooded area. There was enough L and molly there so that everyone had at least a sheet and a G for the head. I guess it just depends what weekend you head there with the more popular occasions having tighter security measures. The music for Summer Dance was sick, everyone and their mother was dosed...so much I got a 30 hit handout from a groundscore, vendors were rippen the bong while doing sales...and all around good times. I guess you just had some tough luck. And security jacking your shit pretty much happens everywhere if they catch you foxing around with it. I look at it like this. That place holds 10-15 festivals a year. With a SHIT ton of illegal activity going there. The cops know it and everyone and their mother knows it. A deal was definitely struck between Evan and authorities. They will pander around and harass people here and there to look like they are doing something...and 95% of people won't get fuckedwith. All around couldn't really ask for anything better than that imo.
Dear Fans, This date was pulled because the promoter (EVAN) did not fulfill his contractual obligations, and upon further discussion to resolve, became belligerent and uncooperative. This is not the type of attitude & environment The Avett Brothers' organization prefers to engage in. Subsequently & sadly, the promoter (Evan) has become even more unkind and slanderous towards The Avett Brothers, so please consider the source when reading the untruths the event is spreading out there. Rest assured The Avett Brothers will continue to perform in northeast Ohio a couple of times a year, just not at this particular venue.
After reading this thread, I went to the web site mentioned. I sent an e mail to the site telling them what I thought about the comments toward TAB. Evan sent me an immediate, and not nice, email back. They are better off staying away from this venue.
Same here. "Evan" wrote me back, and called me every name in the book, and had quite a few curse words directed towards me and Avett fans! We are still going at it in e-mails! This guy is a piece of work, and seems unstable to me.
Doobie Willowick August 6th 2008 04:06:33 AM
I have to say all in all this past weekend was pretty bad. My first night there I tried to participate in a drum circle and as soon as I walked up to the people they were the most unkind people I have interacted with at this camp grounds. I have been coming to the Ledges for 3 years now but this was the most un-friendly event that I have been to. www. NLQP. com
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 16:42:22 GMT -5
tim you keep posting the same 3-4 people out of the 100s of thousands that have been to the park. The people that have been there know the truth.
at least when i go to grateful fest i know Donna Jean and the Tricksters will be there. I know that the Grateful Dead tribute band that is on the bill will be there. I know if New Riders were on the bill they would be there. Last time i checked the NRPS don't have a lot of nice things to say about you.
I know if i go to waterfest that the Waterband will be there.
Bottom line the bands will be there that i paid to see. Oh are you going to bring up, what is their name again ... oh yeah the Avett Brothers ... who refused to open for Hookah again. Deception and lies.
Tim i am really sorry your festival was a flop. i really am, i don't want to see anyone take a bath like that. But your actions over the coarse of the last week are embarrasing.
You keep posting the same tripe over and over and over and over on multiple boards, in an attempt to make grateful-fest fail like your festival. it won't work. You are deceptive and embarrassing.
Bottom line there will nearly 7k-10k at Grateful-fest, seeing what they paid to see. that is the truth.
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 16:54:26 GMT -5
Tim ... it's simple. you stop attacking the park with your tripe and i'll stop the need to defend it. I don't like to be in this position but you forced it on me. I tried to sit in the background at ratdog.org but when you started spewing crap, using the DEA and sheriff (and the IP address of yours and Antsch matched) you forced me into defending it.
then you come on here and said Evan payed me off, bought my equipment and told me to spam Ratdog.org with my pics (all lies) well i am going to call you out.
i hope this is the end of this, if it is then may your life proceed by it's own design, if not i will continue to defend the park against your negative propoganda.
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Post by drumz on Aug 11, 2008 17:27:08 GMT -5
Hey guys..I'm new here. I had to sign up because I heard 'ol Tim was bashing Evan over here now. Oh wait I may be getting ahead of myself. hey just curious bc i like to see how people find the place... but how did you hear about this bashing going on and the link to it exactly? I was on my MySpace page and decided to go over to the Nelson Ledges space to read recent comments. Well I saw that Tim was grinding his axe over there now, since he's been banned from Ratdog.org and Jambase forums. Anyhow there was a link provided in one of his rants, letting us know the "The Truth" (lol) was being posted over here now. I drive 6 hrs to get to the Ledges. My Wife and I brought our GRAND DAUGHTERS to Gratefulfest last year. I would never bring them to a place that I thought was unsafe.....NEVER! I'm smart enough to see if a place is "crawling with drugs"...give me a friggin' break here. If it was...then I wouldn't want my kids and Grandkids there. Again I'm sorry about this. I know the arguing on a message board is stupid, but I feel the need to defend the Quarry. Please stop your slander Tim
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HappyCamper
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Post by HappyCamper on Aug 11, 2008 18:27:05 GMT -5
Hedges, your a good guy. I understand you wanting to defend NLQP. But you know that Evan canceled the Avett Bros, whatever the reason was don't matter. I'm done here with all this crap. But I will be back if needed. BTW, Trip at Sunshine Daydream was bashing us along with Evan and all of you on the Ratdog.org. Well, I just found out that Galactic's performance was canceled on the day of his the show. Did he not have the money to give them, was it a bad turn-out, who knows, and who cares. I know hes hurting right now, and my heart goes out to him. This isn't easy putting on festivals for all of you. You have NO IDEA. Are you all going to cut on him to like you all did to me? I call it KARMA! Could Evan's karma be next? Time will tell my friend, time will tell...
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 18:52:45 GMT -5
Hey if the Avett Brothers (whoever they are) refused to play before hookah then goodbye. let me explain something about hookah in ohio. they are the main draw, and the ledges is their second home. They headline EVERY time they play NLQP and they should. . They headline six times a year, spring hookah, summer hookah and Gory (aka hookaween). It's their house. I can't believe you are making a deal about the Avett Brothers.
Trip has every right to bash you, you stole his date. Hell i thought he was pretty relaxed considering that fact.
I'm done with it too. This isn't me (although it certainly looks that way here). It's simple dude, stop the bashing campaign and i'll end the defending. I've stopped talking about you at ratdog.org and i'll be glad to stop it here.
I'm an ohio boy, been one my whole life. Accept vacation, never spent a day of my life not being a citizen. I lived in NE and SW ohio. I love it here. When an outsider comes in and starts a campaign against a part of what i love, i will defend.
lets just move on ... please stop the campaign here and everywhere else (that includes the one or two people you have helping you) and i will stop defending.
fare thee well ....
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drumz
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Post by drumz on Aug 11, 2008 18:57:59 GMT -5
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Post by hedges on Aug 11, 2008 19:20:04 GMT -5
Drumz. hopefully this is the end of this crap. on both sides. Tim wants it to end, he said he was done with this crap. let's see it through.
If he goes somewhere else and starts his campaign all over again then we know were his sincerity stands. I think he means it. Let's ride it out on both sides.
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